UAP Whistleblower Testimonies
# Report on Recent U.S. Congressional Hearings: Whistleblower Testimonies on UAP Crash Retrievals and Storage Controversies
## Executive Summary
In recent years, particularly from 2023 to 2025, the U.S. Congress has held multiple hearings on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP), formerly known as UFOs. These sessions, convened by the House Oversight and Accountability Committee and related task forces, featured whistleblowers testifying under oath about alleged U.S. government programs involving the recovery of non-human spacecraft and "non-human biologics" (biological remains) from crash sites. Key figures like David Grusch, Luis Elizondo, and investigative journalist George Knapp have claimed the existence of multi-decade crash retrieval and reverse-engineering efforts operating outside standard oversight. While no physical evidence has been publicly presented, testimonies describe intact craft, advanced materials, and biologics recovered from numerous incidents dating back decades.
A central controversy surrounds the locations where these materials are stored. Whistleblowers have cited classified Special Access Programs (SAPs) and private contractors, but public details remain limited due to security classifications. This echoes long-standing claims by Bob Lazar, who in 1989 alleged work on alien craft at a secret base south of Area 51. Recent hearings have indirectly referenced such sites, fueling debates over government transparency and national security implications. This report synthesizes verified testimonies, adhering strictly to documented facts from hearing transcripts and official records.
## Background on UAP Hearings
Congressional interest in UAP surged following the 2021 Office of the Director of National Intelligence report, which documented 144 unexplained sightings by military personnel. Subsequent legislation, including the 2022 National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA), mandated reporting mechanisms. Hearings have focused on aviation safety, national security threats, and potential cover-ups. Whistleblowers, protected under the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act, have alleged retaliation for disclosures. As of October 2025, the All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office (AARO)—the Pentagon's UAP investigative body—maintains no evidence of extraterrestrial origins, though critics claim this contradicts classified data.
## Key Testimonies from 2023: The Grusch Revelations
The July 26, 2023, House Oversight Committee hearing, titled "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Implications on National Security, Public Safety, and Government Transparency," marked a pivotal moment. Three witnesses testified, but former Air Force intelligence officer David Grusch provided the most direct claims on retrievals.
- **David Grusch's Claims**: Grusch, a representative to the UAP Task Force from the National Reconnaissance Office, stated under oath that the U.S. government operates a "multi-decade UAP crash retrieval and reverse-engineering program." He alleged recovery of "nonhuman spacecraft" and "non-human biologics" from crash sites, based on interviews with over 40 witnesses, including personnel with firsthand knowledge. These recoveries, he claimed, predate modern U.S. programs and involve intact or partially intact craft circulated among defense contractors. Grusch specified one craft recovered from Italy in 1933 under Benito Mussolini's regime, transferred to the U.S. in 1944–1945 via Vatican and Five Eyes assistance. He described some UAP as potentially "interdimensional" but emphasized no personal sightings—his knowledge stemmed from official briefings where access was denied.
- **Supporting Context**: Fellow witnesses Ryan Graves (former Navy pilot) and David Fravor (retired Navy commander) described personal encounters with advanced UAP, such as the 2004 "Tic Tac" incident involving a 40-foot craft with no visible propulsion performing physics-defying maneuvers. While they did not address retrievals, their accounts underscored UAP capabilities exceeding human technology.
Grusch reported providing specific program names and crash site locations to the Intelligence Community Inspector General (ICIG) and congressional intelligence committees, but these remain classified. He alleged funding via misappropriated funds and corporate overcharges, with programs evading oversight through SAPs and Controlled Access Programs (CAPs). Retaliation claims included threats to his life and "administrative terrorism" against whistleblowers.
The Pentagon and NASA rebutted these assertions, stating no verifiable evidence exists.
## Developments in 2024: Confirmation of Secret Programs
The November 13, 2024, hearing, "Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena: Exposing the Truth," built on Grusch's testimony with new whistleblowers alleging structured retrieval operations.
- **Luis Elizondo's Testimony**: Former Pentagon official and head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), Elizondo confirmed under oath the existence of "secret UAP crash retrieval programs" aimed at identifying and reverse-engineering "alien craft." He stated the U.S. possesses such technologies, alongside adversaries, and that non-governmental advanced tech monitors military sites globally. Elizondo signed a 2021 DoD nondisclosure agreement restricting public discussion, necessitating closed sessions for details.
- **Michael Shellenberger's Disclosures**: The journalist presented a whistleblower report on "Immaculate Constellation," an alleged Unacknowledged SAP (USAP) within the DoD using advanced sensors to track UAP. Linked to Non-Human Intelligence (NHI), it reportedly serves as a hub for UAP data collection, including an F-22 encounter with multiple UAPs. Shellenberger described extreme secrecy, with mere mention risking surveillance.
Other witnesses, like retired Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet, referenced UAP videos but not retrievals. The hearing highlighted injuries to government employees from UAP interactions and called for declassification under the 2024 NDAA, which mandates reporting of unknown-origin technologies.
## 2025 Hearings: Expanding Whistleblower Accounts
By 2025, hearings intensified, with a September 9 session titled "Restoring Public Trust Through UAP Transparency and Whistleblower Protection" featuring military veterans and journalists.
- **George Knapp's Insights**: The investigative reporter referenced declassified Russian documents on UAP retrievals ("Thread Three" program) and U.S. parallels. He alleged a 1990s deal between contractor Robert Bigelow and Lockheed Martin for "unusual material not made on Earth," stored at a California facility to evade oversight. Knapp tied this to reverse-engineering failures and global nuclear site incursions.
- **Dylan Borland's Claims**: A former Air Force geospatial intelligence specialist testified to knowledge of "legacy UAP crash retrieval programs," including non-human craft, but deferred details to a Sensitive Compartmented Information Facility (SCIF) due to classification. He alleged retaliation, including job blacklisting, and criticized AARO for misrepresenting evidence.
- **Other Accounts**: Witnesses like Jeffrey Nuccetelli (Air Force veteran) described 2003–2005 Vandenberg base incursions by massive triangular craft, with records now held by AARO and the FBI. Navy Chief Alexandro Wiggins detailed a 2023 ocean-emerging "Tic Tac" UAP. No direct body recoveries were claimed, but patterns suggested ongoing retrieval interest.
A September 12 follow-up hearing reiterated transparency demands, with witnesses estimating only 5% of sightings reported due to stigma.
## The Controversy Over Storage Locations
Public testimonies avoid specifics to protect sources, but private briefings hint at dispersed, contractor-run sites. Grusch provided crash site and program locations to the ICIG, alleging corporate involvement in storage to bypass FOIA. Elizondo implied global monitoring complicates centralized storage. Shellenberger's "Immaculate Constellation" suggests DoD hubs for data, not physical craft.
This opacity fuels speculation. Critics argue excessive classification hides mundane tech (e.g., drones), while proponents cite evasion of congressional oversight as evidence of sensitive non-human origins. No hearing explicitly confirmed bodies' locations, though Grusch's "biologics" imply secure, bio-containment facilities.
## Bob Lazar's Claims and Enduring Legacy
The storage debate traces to Bob Lazar's 1989 disclosures, predating recent hearings but resurfacing in 2025 testimonies. Lazar, claiming a physicist role at Naval Intelligence, alleged employment at S-4—a hidden base south of Area 51 (Groom Lake, Nevada)—from 1988–1989. There, he said, the U.S. stored and reverse-engineered nine extraterrestrial "flying saucers," including a "Sport Model" powered by element 115 (later synthesized as moscovium).
Lazar described craft made of seamless, liquid-like metal, with anti-gravity propulsion enabling trans-medium travel. He claimed reviewing documents on alien-human interactions spanning 10,000 years and that his records were erased post-disclosure. Knapp, in the 2025 hearing, directly referenced Lazar's S-4 work as foundational to UAP lore, linking it to modern contractor storage like Lockheed's California site.
Lazar's story remains unverified; skeptics question his credentials (no MIT/Caltech records), but supporters note predictive elements like element 115. It embodies the controversy: a single site's alleged role in hiding "the program," contrasting recent claims of fragmented, private-sector storage.
| Aspect | Grusch (2023) | Elizondo/Shellenberger (2024) | Knapp/Borland (2025) | Lazar (1989) |
|--------|---------------|-------------------------------|----------------------|-------------|
| **Retrievals Confirmed** | Multi-decade programs; intact craft & biologics | Secret crash retrievals for reverse-engineering | Legacy programs; non-Earth materials | 9 saucers at S-4 |
| **Storage Details** | Provided privately to ICIG; SAPs/contractors | DoD USAPs (e.g., Immaculate Constellation) | Lockheed CA facility; private evasion | S-4 south of Area 51 |
| **Evidence Basis** | 40+ witness interviews | Nondisclosure agreements; whistleblower reports | Declassified docs; deals | Personal work experience |
| **Oversight Issues** | Evasion via misfunding | Extreme secrecy risks surveillance | Contractor FOIA dodges | Records erased |
## Conclusion and Implications
Whistleblower testimonies under oath across 2023–2025 hearings substantiate claims of U.S. possession of non-human craft and biologics from "numerous crash sites," with programs like crash retrievals and reverse-engineering persisting for decades. However, lack of public evidence and DoD denials persist, with AARO's 2024–2025 reports finding no extraterrestrial links. Storage remains controversial—privatized and classified, echoing Lazar's S-4 narrative but expanded to entities like Lockheed.
These disclosures have prompted legislative action, including UAP disclosure mandates in the 2024–2025 NDAAs and whistleblower protections. Bipartisan calls for SCIF briefings continue, aiming to resolve safety risks (e.g., airspace incursions) and security threats. As of October 25, 2025, no declassifications have occurred, leaving the public reliant on testimonies amid ongoing debate. Further hearings are anticipated, potentially clarifying locations and origins.